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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Update from Wiki&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;'''Who:'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Dartmouth: Andy Saykin, John West, Bob Roth (others?)&lt;br /&gt;
* BWH: Steve Pieper, Sandy Wells, Wendy Plesniak (fMRI), Haiying Liu (fMRI), C-F Westin (DTI), Raul San Jose (DTI).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''What:'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* fMRI&lt;br /&gt;
** Test new Slicer fMRI package with Dartmouth Data (2 motor cases)&lt;br /&gt;
** Compare results to SPM&lt;br /&gt;
** Discussion on where to improve fMRI package in Slicer after testing&lt;br /&gt;
* DTI&lt;br /&gt;
** Discussion of what new improvements/features in Slicer 2.6 DTI&lt;br /&gt;
** Discussion of improvements still needed in DTI package (eddy current correction, scale factors, etc.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Where:'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* 1249 Boylston conf room 2nd floor [http://splweb.bwh.harvard.edu:8000/pages/directions/1249Boylston/Boylston-facility.html directions here].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''When:'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Dartmouth people arrive 10am&lt;br /&gt;
* 10:00 - 11:00 -- DTI meeting with Marty and Schiz group&lt;br /&gt;
* 11:00 - 12:00 -- fMRI Phase I - Wendy, Haiying, Carsten&lt;br /&gt;
** copy Dartmouth data&lt;br /&gt;
** overview of software and new features&lt;br /&gt;
** start analysis with new data&lt;br /&gt;
* 12:00 - 1:15 -- Lunch (with Marty and anyone)&lt;br /&gt;
* 1:15 - 1:45 -- EM Atlas Classifier (Kilian Pohl)&lt;br /&gt;
** test slicer2.6 version on dartmouth datasets&lt;br /&gt;
** discuss plans for AHM&lt;br /&gt;
* 1:45 - 3:00 -- fMRI Phase II - Wendy, Haiying, Steve, Sandy, Carsten&lt;br /&gt;
** review results, statistics, blobs, models&lt;br /&gt;
* 3pm [http://lmi.bwh.harvard.edu/internal/meetings/schedule.htm LMI meeting]&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Present recent DTI developments and discuss open issues &amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
** Lauren O'Donnell will show some recent developments relating results from fiber clustering and fMRI&lt;br /&gt;
** David Banks will show new software visualizing Lauren's fiber clustering results&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Meeting Notes (John D. West)'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* 10:00 - 11:00 -- DTI meeting with Marty and Schiz group&lt;br /&gt;
** Presentation on fiber tracking of arcuate fasciculus (AF)&lt;br /&gt;
*** Background on function of AF.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Description of difficulty in fiber tracking of AF&lt;br /&gt;
**** 2x2x2.4mm EPI DTI - tracts in AF do not fully track in EPI based sequences&lt;br /&gt;
**** LSDTI - line scan DTIs perform better but are much longer (30 min sequences)&lt;br /&gt;
*** Discussion ongoing about whether to go with line scan or EPI sequences&lt;br /&gt;
* 11:00 - 12:00 and 2:00 - 3:00-- fMRI - Wendy, Haiying, Carsten&lt;br /&gt;
** Discussed progress of fMRI analysis module&lt;br /&gt;
*** Event related analyses have been implemented&lt;br /&gt;
*** Results from first Dartmouth control using new module seem much improved&lt;br /&gt;
*** Ability to output clusters to label maps and then get statistics within each cluster&lt;br /&gt;
** Discussed improvments to be made&lt;br /&gt;
*** Add batch processing feature&lt;br /&gt;
*** Add ability to save model settings&lt;br /&gt;
*** Need to be able to separte deactivation clusters in label map from activation clusters when doing statistics&lt;br /&gt;
*** Ability to do group analyses on data - general change to slicer&lt;br /&gt;
* 1:15 - 2:00 -- EM Atlas Classifier (Kilian Pohl)&lt;br /&gt;
** Joint segmentation and registration - large improvement over registration to atlas then segmenting&lt;br /&gt;
** Is usable with any atlas&lt;br /&gt;
** Need SPGR and T2 (aligned) to perform segmentation&lt;br /&gt;
** Potential to auto segment 30+ structures with current atlases though some issues still need testing and tweaking&lt;br /&gt;
* 3pm - ~4pm [http://lmi.bwh.harvard.edu/internal/meetings/schedule.htm LMI meeting]&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Present recent DTI developments and discuss open issues &amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
** Lauren O'Donell - fiber clustering and fMRI&lt;br /&gt;
*** Development of program in slicer to cluster individual fiber tracts into groupable clusters - automatic&lt;br /&gt;
*** Tools to further group clusters into major fiber tracts - manual&lt;br /&gt;
*** Shown on test case on tumor patient - how fiber tracts and fMRI activation clusters interacted with tumor&lt;br /&gt;
*** Sent reference to Lauren on classification of white matter by FA value (WM&amp;gt;0.2 FA) - hopefully will assist in project (Ref: Pierpaoli et al., Radiology, 1996. DTMRI of the Human Brain.)&lt;br /&gt;
** David Banks - visualization of fiber clustering from Lauren&lt;br /&gt;
*** Using global lighting to improve realistic visualization of fibers&lt;br /&gt;
*** Rendering computationally time consuming - but tools available to convert this to 3D movie for later viewing in real time&lt;br /&gt;
** Gordon Kindlmann - Eddy Current correction&lt;br /&gt;
*** Correction of eddy currents using a moment based approach - no need for reference scan (e.g. Mean DWI image) to correct disstortions&lt;br /&gt;
*** Tested on first dartmouth control DTI with good success&lt;br /&gt;
*** Currently working on polishing program for Slicer 2.6&lt;br /&gt;
*** Measurement of moments could potentially be used for DTI QC&lt;br /&gt;
* 4pm on - Bob Roth and John West discussion with Steve Pieper on possible Slicer improvement and new features in Slicer 2.6&lt;br /&gt;
** Possible improvements to make&lt;br /&gt;
*** Global save - option to save all images in scene at one time&lt;br /&gt;
*** Smaller pointer for tracing - arrow obstructs view while tracing and is not as accurate&lt;br /&gt;
** New improvements in Slicer 2.6&lt;br /&gt;
*** Keyboard commands for tracing&lt;br /&gt;
**** To change colors on the fly&lt;br /&gt;
**** Delete previously drawn lines&lt;br /&gt;
**** Hold shift key to have other two views follow tracing in view being editted&lt;br /&gt;
*** Joint smoothing of multiple models&lt;br /&gt;
*** Save all models function&lt;br /&gt;
*** Also learned about color map editting and saving (current commands)&lt;br /&gt;
** Also discussed a couple of potential bugs (in bug tracker), but could not reproduce - John West and Bob Roth will keep an eye on these to see if the are present in Slicer 2.6&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Huge thanks to Marty Shenton and her group for having us visit.'''&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Andy</name></author>
		
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