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	'''Editor Bugs'''		'''Editor Bugs'''
		+
		+	== PNL RA Slicer3 Editor Meeting February 26, 2008 ==
		+
		+	'''Minutes by Charlie Davidson''' plus some comments ''in italics'' by Steve Pieper
		+
		+	Dear All,
		+	We met today to discuss Slicer 3 development and PNL RA's input at this stage.
		+	I figured it's best to send everything so it's all in one place... Let
		+	me know if you'd like a summarized version.
		+
		+	SLICER3 FUNCTIONS NOTES
		+
		+	- search module is an alphabetical (substring) search. additionally,
		+	recently used modules, with arrows to go back and forth. there also
		+	exists a "home".
		+
		+	- also, there are favorites buttons.
		+	- can use wildcard in add files.
		+
		+	- up,down,left,right all scroll through slices
		+
		+	- space key = editor toolbar, scroll for slices, shift is same (though
		+	diff), z does (will do) something , c color picker, e does toggle
		+	colors and black...? ''yes, e toggles between black (0) and your current color''
		+
		+
		+	- whatever is in label layer for panel you're drawing in will be what
		+	you draw on. for global operations, (e.g. models) RED is 'master'.
		+
		+	- to fade globally, link and then fade
		+
		+	- if hit apply twice will crash, if "click" apply, may crash. use "A"
		+	shortcut to apply for now. seems to happen in draw, whereas PAINT
		+	seems to work better. ''this crash was fixed just after the meeting so it should go away in the next nightly build''
		+
		+	- SCENE SAVE: check at beginning selects which.
		+
		+	- smudge is like Slicer 27's "auto"
		+
		+	- ctrl Z and ctrl Y will be undo and redo
		+
		+	- instead of "shift" for non-panning slice coregistration, can use "P"
		+	to lay down fiducial, link panels, then if you move fiducial around,
		+	should move slices same way as slicer2 shift. space bar, + and -
		+	buttons (or fiducial list) can scroll through fiducial list
		+
		+	- grid on/off is on left side.
		+
		+	- paint over and threshold options:
		+
		+	-- exist in all 'drawing/painting' type fxns
		+
		+	-- can set threshold, click "apply" (global), or "use for (paint)",
		+	(thresholds painting)
		+
		+	-- if paint over is on(?), only things that are "0" will get drawn on. ''actually paint over on means you can paint anywhere, paint over off means only 0 values painted''
		+
		+	- LEVEL TRACING
		+
		+	-- an outlining method...
		+
		+	-- also SIMPLE REGION GROWING module (generates labelmap from seed
		+	point), level tracing works differently
		+
		+	-- level tracing: when move from slice to slice, you're always picking
		+	"altitude" in histogram in a different way. may be bumpy.
		+
		+	- change island and remove island, erode, dilate, are all 3D right
		+	now, not fully implemented yet. will hopefully have slice,
		+	multi-slice, etc. versions later.
		+
		+	- with Lauren's tool, you can create a scalar field based on image
		+	volume (e.g. create scalar overlay based on volume and model, then
		+	manip using models panel). made specifically for freesurfer stuff, but
		+	... ''this is called Probe Volume module''
		+
		+	- Slicer3 CTRL+S brings up save dialog
		+
		+	- Lauren's tool does tract --> labelmap ''no slicer3 version of this yet''
		+
		+	- MAKE MODEL button in editor (calls regular modelmaker, but only
		+	exposes a couple simple options, smooth/not, has a button to go to
		+	full model-maker). makes model in background
		+
		+	- rectangle draw may also be useful (particularly with threshold or
		+	paint-over modes). rubber-bandy rectangle.
		+
		+	- volume rendering, sort of an alternative to making a model, better
		+	for things like FA maps or CT data. equivalent of making a model, but
		+	differently.
		+
		+	- ability to change size of control panel vs. vis window - already
		+	doable, (e.g. F5 hides control panel, can swap from left to right, is
		+	resizable now, but there is a minimum)
		+
		+	FEATURE REQUESTS (overlaps with other sections)
		+
		+	- shortcut for fade in/out. might work as hold button and scroll?
		+	CTRL+H sets home.
		+
		+	- ANNO - more options for crosshairs and SHIFT, particularly ability
		+	to not pan entire image with shift, plus crosshairs follow mouse.
		+	(possibly fixed with fiducials tools?)
		+
		+	- ability to turn off little floating "mode" tag on pointer (partic. on draw).
		+
		+	- un-applied points to stay when change slices, also when select
		+	"don't delete after apply," also ability to copy and move.
		+
		+	- polygon, line, and point drawing? (right now only polygon exists) ''can currently do line by applying after clicking down two points''
		+
		+	- some notification of "working..." . currently no explicit log of
		+	activity, e.g. difficult to know what's going on when loading an xml
		+	scene. need to know, e.g. when loading large DWI, if it's crashed or
		+	if it's just working. (red button on lower right gives additional
		+	info).
		+
		+	- delete last, shortcut also, also undelete? smaller scale undo?
		+	(ctrl+z, ctrl+y; delete, insert?)
		+	- level set tracing, tell you gray level, parameters to set?
		+
		+	- problem of moving slicer across windows (CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+arrow) still exists
		+
		+	- more info on scalar vis, level set tracing..?
		+
		+	- periodic auto-save? into tmp directory of some kind?
		+
		+	- paint-in as well as paint-over?
		+
		+	- model --> labelmap (vtk cutter?) geometry draw in slicer 2 similar?
		+
		+	- make all models invisible menu, LINK for model visualizations?
		+
		+	- shift mode over models
		+
		+	- hotkeys window?
		+
		+	ADDITIONAL NOTES, CONCLUSION
		+
		+	- the build of Slicer 3 that we are currently using is compiled weekly
		+	using a cronjob from Katharina. Instructions are here:
		+	https://intweb.spl.harvard.edu/SlicerBuilds:PNL
		+	hopefully this will be useful to figure out which version we're using.
		+	- For now, our highest priority requests are probably for stability in
		+	editor (particularly draw) module, as well as other commonly-used
		+	modules, and within this version of Fedora. We'll also need to figure
		+	out how we can be sure we're running the most current, stable version
		+	(with Katharina gone).
		+	- Hopefully later we can re-visit and see if we can figure out DTI,
		+	level-set drawing, models, etc.
		+
		+	Please let me know if we can help in any way, or if you could use any
		+	particular feedback.
		+	I've written down a few of my personal questions below that weren't
		+	covered in the meeting.
		+
		+	Thank you!
		+
		+	Charlie
		+
		+
		+
		+	Charlie's questions:
		+
		+	- will there be a unit of spin in 3D view (e.g. the unit rotate
		+	arrows in Slicer2, or the incremental rotations in tksurfer). ''yes, this is already available in the view manipulation control in the lower left''
		+	- what is ROI module for? ''it's used by some command line modules to select a subvolume, but isn't used in the Editor''
		+
		+	- DT estimation and scalar modules very different from Slicer2. I
		+	think we may need help eventually understanding the changes.
		+
		+	- LINKED slice controls should be default.
		+
		+	- create new labelmap snaps FOV back to automatic fit, losing specific views.
		+
		+	- what is editor-ERASE for if can draw w/ 0?
		+
		+	Thanks!
		+	C

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 See Also: [[Slicer3:Editor]]
-== User feedback for design of the Editor Module ==
+== Iterative design proposals for Slicer3 Editor module ==
 === Editor design sketch 5. GENERATION 1 ROI Toolbox and Editor Module draft ===
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 [[Image: EditorModuleDesignGen1.png]]
 ==== General feedback on draft designs ====

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-=== Schematics illustrating some challenges in existing editor:===
+=== Schematics illustrating some challenges in existing Slicer2 editor:===
 '''challenges with existing design:'''
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 [[Image:S3EditorEffectsDetailsCombine.png | Effects and configurations ]]
 === KidDefib Project Feedback ===

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 [[Image:S3EditorEffects.png | sketch 1 ]]
-=== General: ===
+=== General User feedback on existing Slicer2 editor module: ===
 * In Slicer2 workflow, “apply” is currently being used as a “preview” and “undo” is used to back out of an unsatisfactory operation. In Slicer3, instead of “apply” and “undo”, we should consistently implement “preview”, and “apply”. Though these may be implement the same operations programmatically, the concept of preview has less implicit stress for the user, who won’t worry that their original data may become unrecoverable.
 * Visual cue: Should we assign a reserved color or visual appearance for ‘Editor preview’ so that in complicated visualizations, it will be clear which regions are being affected by the operation in preview?

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 * Are the icons understandable?
 * Anything obviously or subtly impacting region drawing workflow that we should fix/improve?
 === General: ===

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	[[Image:S3EditorEffectsDetailsCombine.png \| Effects and configurations ]]		[[Image:S3EditorEffectsDetailsCombine.png \| Effects and configurations ]]
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−	~~=== Editor design sketch 1: ===~~
−
−	Based on the above sketch, here's a first draft of an editor module redesign, using the Draw effect as an example. Effects palette has been replaced with icons (these are stand-ins for now). Possible pop-up editor toolbox and color selection palettes are also shown to the side. This is meant to be used as fodder for discussion with users and developers. The sketch tries to maintain similarity to the Slicer2 GUI to maximize the transfer of skills to the new package -- but there will be changes; we should discuss these. Some relevant questions:
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−	* what works and doesn't work in this layout
−	* are there changes that can streamline ROI drawing and editing more?
−	* notice that there's a "P" for Paint added to the tool palette -- other things to add, consolidate, or remove (like Dr2?)
−	* in the example, I've added a spline drawing style to the palette.
−	* no rubberband or lasso tools are present for selection -- but this mayy be useful
−	* is it ok for "label statistics" to go in separate section? (might let user pick all labels or one label; select output to text file and name file; and report voxel value max, min, mean, std. dev., volume)
−	* note: the editor icons are placeholders -- would be nice to design image icons in the palette if possible.
−	* ...
−
−	~~[[Image:S3EditorEffects.png \| sketch 1 ]]~~
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