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** 3D Ultrasound (raw vs reconstructed)
 
** 3D Ultrasound (raw vs reconstructed)
 
* lesion segmentation (John Melonakos)
 
* lesion segmentation (John Melonakos)
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** Question on how lesions manifest in DTI images (reduced FA; increased MD)
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** Boundary of CSF around ventricles appears similar to lesion
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*** lesions can occur in same region
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*** Radiologist heuristic has to do with symmetry to distinguish partial voluming from real lesions
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* tissue classification
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* label space segmentation
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** Question on meaning of binary vectors representation
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** Explanation of LogOdds representation
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** Comment on work on label spaces in volume rendering
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* discussion of tissue labeling versus boundary segmentation
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** itk-snap
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** freesurfer
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** parametrization not available in tissue labeling approaches
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** cortical analysis - thickness and alignment - do we want a surface based approach? hybrid approaches?
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** Integrating DTI into cortical-based analysis frameworks
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** Discussion of how to approach external freely available tools.  reimplement in slicer? link to external tools? develop new algorithms?
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*** relation to renewal. 
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*** how core 1 and core 2 interact on this
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*** innovation in new algorithm improvement as well as engineering.  need to show novelty.
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*** validation
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**** comparison of methods
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**** ground truth - cortical thickness validated by dissection and histology (MGH)

Revision as of 18:30, 22 May 2008

Home < 2008 Core 1 Core 3 mtg:notes

Core 3 Presentations

9:30 B&W/Harvard Marek Kubicki, Core 3 Talk. Slides. Stochastic Tractography

Additional discussion:

  • Slicer3 release date? Some question regarding proper handling of coordinate frames in Slicer3.
  • Discussion of registration and existing/needed tools in Slicer 3. Discussion postponed to registration session.
  • Discussion re bias field correction and EM seg -> perhaps moreCore3/Core1 interaction needed

9:50 Queen's U not here yet -> talk postponed

9:50 UNC Rachel Smith talk. Slides. Longitudinal study of brain devel. in autism. Additional discussion:

  • Brief discussion of segmentation methods for brain substructure segmentations
  • Additional clarification/specifics of the status of the processing of datasets
  • Status of Marcel segmentation modules and issues re Core2/1 interaction issues -> Utah (Guido, Marcel) waiting for resolution of some critical Core2 software infrastructure issues e.g. chaining infrastructure design before

they can finalize tools

  • Cortical thickness measurment algorithms-> Advantages/drawbacks of different methods. Guido: we should compare methods and see difference in simpler vs. more complex algorithms. Martin: Core 3 intends to look at this issue
  • Cortical correspondence-> Martin gives update on local correspondence methods status (particle method with freesurfer preprocessing). Issue: Freesurfer not working for pediatric data. Critical Freesurfer functionality will be reimplemented as NAMIC tool

10:20 break

Jeremy Bockholt (DPB lupus)

  • collecting new data/ ongoing clinical study (old data)
  • discussion about how DTI sequences are selected
  • discussion about analysis of lesion growth and identification in follow up images
    • ability to find follow up lesions
    • growth may merge lesions. lesions may disappear. not expected for lesions to move
  • question to test - does lesion information correlate with clinical measures/outcomes
  • Discussion of classification comparison for lesions
  • Comment on the MICCAI workshop on MS lesions segmentation
  • Discussion on methods for segmentation comparison
  • Discussion of commercial tool JIM

Core 1 Presentations

John Melonakos & Yi Gao (segmentation)

  • prostate segmentation (Yi Gao)
    • Extraction of concave valley of prostate for use as landmark in registration
    • Discussion of comparison to UNC work (Steve Pizer's group) on prostate segmentation
    • 3D Ultrasound (raw vs reconstructed)
  • lesion segmentation (John Melonakos)
    • Question on how lesions manifest in DTI images (reduced FA; increased MD)
    • Boundary of CSF around ventricles appears similar to lesion
      • lesions can occur in same region
      • Radiologist heuristic has to do with symmetry to distinguish partial voluming from real lesions
  • tissue classification
  • label space segmentation
    • Question on meaning of binary vectors representation
    • Explanation of LogOdds representation
    • Comment on work on label spaces in volume rendering
  • discussion of tissue labeling versus boundary segmentation
    • itk-snap
    • freesurfer
    • parametrization not available in tissue labeling approaches
    • cortical analysis - thickness and alignment - do we want a surface based approach? hybrid approaches?
    • Integrating DTI into cortical-based analysis frameworks
    • Discussion of how to approach external freely available tools. reimplement in slicer? link to external tools? develop new algorithms?
      • relation to renewal.
      • how core 1 and core 2 interact on this
      • innovation in new algorithm improvement as well as engineering. need to show novelty.
      • validation
        • comparison of methods
        • ground truth - cortical thickness validated by dissection and histology (MGH)